A Zola Muse Story

Gina and I, go back a long way. From the very first interaction, I was inspired by her. She is focused, funny, and full of life. She is so dedicated and she was well aware of what she wanted and where she was heading ever since she started her entrepreneurial journey. Since 2014, I have been a proud owner of some of her amazing work. She designs amazing jewellery and every piece of her jewellery tells a unique story.

As Gina competently says, ‘Babe, you are wearing a fragment of history filled with Art and Culture. You are wearing a piece of earth’, and truth be told, it is true. Through Gina, Zola India collaborated with Dhokra and Pattachitra from Orissa, Toda embroidery from Tamilnadu, Wall Mural art and Aranmula mirror from Kerala, Leather puppetry and Lac Turnery from Andhra Pradesh, Bidri from Karnataka, and Bead embroidery from Gujarat. She has worked with over 500 artisans from these states and has driven over 30 Design intervention workshops in rural India.

So imagine my surprise when she called me one day and said, ‘hey Babe, I want you to be my muse.’ Of course, I was thrilled. This will be my first modelling assignment. In the next few weeks, Gina will call me to sort out what to wear, from sarees to dresses, she raided my wardrobe and chose two that she was convinced will work with the Zola jewellery that I own. Gina and Avinash, the most amazing photographer banded and fixed the dates and well, I became a Zola Muse.

On the day of the shoot, I woke up, packed my jewellery, saree, and dress and drove to my favorite Salon, got myself made up(a little bit of makeup and hair, that’s all.), and drove to the location. Avinash joined me and I had an amazing time being a model. As I was walking through the streets, folks passing by kept gazing at me, I felt like a star. Sure, it is a nice feeling. I have to say, it was a nice, sure absolutely excellent feeling.

During the whole time, during each change of cloth, Gina was on the video call, directing me, dressing me up, and mandating how to wear her piece of art. She was fabulous. And after being a Zola fangirl for over eight years, I told Gina, ‘am at a stage where I am in love with myself. The older I get the younger I feel. The mistakes from my past moulded me to be stronger. Life lessons, I value them more than ever. And wearing a piece designed by you makes me beautiful. I feel like a diva. I feel love, appreciation, and excitement.’

And after the shoot, I miss the attention I got for myself. It sure is addictive. I did tell her, I am up for it again. Gina said,‘sure Babe…anytime.’ Do you think it’s too soon to ask her? Maybe I should wait. Right! I sure should. For the last eight years, I have been a fan of Zola, India, and without a doubt, a fan of Gina. She is so full of life and it shows in the designs she assembles.

Today as she is having an amazing sale happening taking this opportunity to support my friend and her efforts. As Serena Williams once said “every woman’s success should be an inspiration to another. We’re strongest when we cheer each other on.” To Gina and Zola.

Story of Zola founder Gina Joseph

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Venal

Our long hasty days-the hottest of the four seasons and its coming duly brought happiness to the mind of the children because it was the onset of the summer vacations. The blazing summer was otherwise not felt friendly. 

Could you imagine a person living without taking a bath for weeks or months? That was my paternal grandfather, Govindan Appooppan. His bathing was restricted to four days a year. Yes, you read that right. One during Onam, then for Deepavali, again another one before Vishu, and, the last one during Uchara. During these days, there were pujas(prayers) conducted in the ancestral shrine, and he was the one who conducted and performed pujas. The older people in the house mumble jokingly, that he was allergic to water. He always wore a lungie, a cloth wrapped around the waist and worn by men. It came up barely to his knee. Its original colour was unimaginable because washing the attire was also like his bathing behaviour.

With the long dirty nails he had, he loved to scratch his body. His pet cow liked to lick the salt and tasted the sweat of the exposed upper posterior with her coarse tongue. He adjusted his posture to make her efforts viable and made sounds like sh….sh….just like he was in a trance. The cohabitation between the two was a compelling sight.

Uchaara fell in the Malayalam month of Makarem, and the special offering” therali appam” was prepared under the guidance of Govindan Appooppan.

Rice flour mixed with jaggery, plantain, coconut, and a little bit of cardamom powder was filled in the cinnamon leaf tucked like a cone and steamed in a big brass vessel. Almost everyone including children was taken part in its preparation. At twilight, the shrine was lit up with lamps, and pujas were enacted to the main as well as subsidiary deities. As pujas and offerings were divided among those assembled there, and we were eagerly waiting for munching our the due share.

During Deepavali grandpa would donate some coins to my mother to buy coconut oil, as a part of the ritual to apply oil before an early morning bath. I didn’t like oil massaging at all, so blindfolded my mother and rubbed oil with my clothes. The most intriguing thing in Deepavali was watching grandpa bathing. He wore only a loin cloth and massage oil all over his body. Using a pail, he drew water from the open well and poured it over his body, rubbing hardly using an incha(bark of a tree used to clean) with red Carbolic soap. Now the dirt started trickling with water to turn its colour dark and grandpa’s body transformed into golden colour. 

The bathing extravaganza came to an end by wearing a neat lungie and applying a pinch of vermillion to his forehead from the ash bowl dangling in the verandah. Watching and enjoying the whole thing I sometimes go near him to smell the cleanup grandpa. At times he smiles at me, and that was enough for me to get excited because it was a rare benevolent edict from his part towards me.

During daytime he was busy in his “aala” (workplace near the main building). That fateful day I noticed grandpa was not around the hot fireplace. Usually, he never allowed us in his workplace, talking this opportunity I approached the igniting fireplace, where I saw a coconut cutta nearby, and simply put it in the fire. As the cutta caught fire I was afraid and threw it away, accidentally it fell on the sliding thatched roof and caught fire. “What would I do??” Out of fear an unusual sound escaped from my throat. Watching the fire spreading the mynah, Uppen, and parrot resting on the mango tree in front yard made a cry of shock and flew in different ways. 

Now I was in my grandpa’s quick and wicked hands. While preventing the fire from further spreading he hold my ear tightly and slapped my back with his stick. One, two, and three. I cursed those moments and somehow managed to escape from him. He dozed the fire but fumes and smoke spread and scented the area. A squeaky little voice began talking and consoling me, that was none other than the little parrot who was a frequent visitor to munch the ripe mango whom I had befriended. The other children older and younger began to mock, tease and make fun of me. They at that time called me a firebolt.

My childish hasty behaviour decided to take vengeance on the rude and offensive grandpa. It was not easy for me to settle down, I wanted to blast away the dynamite and calm my mind. One day I saw him sitting carelessly in the aala, the tail portion of the loincloth was flashing outward through his short lungie, he was busy with his work. There was no one around, secretly and quietly like a snail I approached him from behind and stole the tongs that were kept there and clipped them into the exposing loincloth.

My heart was thumbing vigorously as if it would come out at once. At a safe distance hiding from behind the tree nearby, I watched the hanging tongs when he stood up. He yelped aloud and looked around but couldn’t find the culprit. Heard his screams the children gathered there howled and laughed at him. Contentment inside me began to come up, I shared my happiness with the grasshoppers, ladybirds, butterflies, and lizards on the lawn who look at me sympathetically and encouraged me with this idea of melting the clouds of revenge hanging in my mind.

My sister Mani was his all-time favourite since her birth. Clenching her in his left hand and the stick in his right hand he gets hold of her when he moves out to the neighbourhood. I often imagined myself in her place, but that never happened in my entire childhood.

Likewise, the routine he followed to observe the habit of bathing his whole life didn’t change. Lasted till the end of his days. After a prolonged illness on a Deepavali day in the early morning, he lost his life. So he proved, he was able to take bath as usual. However, this time with a difference, his kith and kin took the responsibility to bathe him and prepared him for his last journey.

Sitting beside and pressed hard to the bygone days of that beautiful era, now there was no one on the road-neither those insulting siblings nor the terror-inducing elders trumpeting wild elephants gore to the tiny hearts, all are tuning fond music to the ears. The old mango tree, older than my grandpa is still there, housing a dozen birds and squirrels. If possible, I could hide in its branches behind thick green leaves and spy on this captivating world.

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Magnificent India

As Incredible, colourful and inspiring India can be, the country is a boomerang of many amazing wonders, qualities and features! A nation so surreally beautiful with landscapes like the Himalayas, the Western Ghats, the picturesque backwaters of Kerala, the magical natural beauty of Cherrapunjee and the absolutely awe-inspiring beaches; all add to what India is.

The country is a uniquely diverse place on earth with strong-rooted culture(s) and a rich heritage. It is the land of more than a billion people who live by their beliefs and customs. It is a melting pot of exquisite art forms, cuisines, legends and tales that sure will inspire generations after generations.

Indeed an amazing country to live in, India is certainly something for everyone. She is home to wonderful people, good music, the birthplace of many different cultures, and ofcourse who can miss the Bollywood, jaw-dropping dance forms, fabulous art and architecture, authentic and unique food and cuisine, and everything extraordinary!

On this patriotic occasion of the 75th Independence Day of India, here’s an ode, a reminder, a ballad for this land which is so wonderful, the motherland of billions, the land of Saffron, White and Green.

India is
A long stretch of land
Land of the mountains, 
Land of the desert,
Land of the beaches 
Land of the farmers;
India is a long stretch of land, 
Land that matters!
From scorching hot summers to 
Shivering hands in winters,
A cup of freshly brewed tea or 
A tall mug of coffee.
India is
An amalgam of thoughts, minds, souls and humans! 
Tales of rich heritage and bound cultures
Untold mysteries of wise people and their histories,
A land of love and symbols of it,
A collaboration of loud sounds, colours and stories! 
India is… 
Everything man can see
And beyond.
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Made Of Steel

Marriage is a sacred bond that brings together not just two people but also their families. In specific cases, two completely different cultures. Marriage is about two distinct worlds, each with their history, belief system, and way of life, joining together to form a new world that is all their own.

This new world is what they call “home.” Something that one must work on day in and out and for every single day with sincerity, love, trust, mutual respect, and the determination to stay jointly and not give up no matter what. Marriage does not ‘just’ happen. Indeed, a marriage won’t always be fun and frolickings, yet if you’re planning to live the rest of your lives with someone, you should at least give it a shot.

Celebrating 11 Years With An Open Conversation

Naveeta———–11 Years Ansh. Congrats to us. This is a milestone in our relationship. It’s almost as if we only met the day before. It’s hard to fathom that we’ve already spent so much time together as a team. It feels almost surreal. I mean, it’s magical, it’s evolving, there’s a learning curve for both of us.

How do you feel?
AnshulThe feelings is mutual, it does feel just like we met yesterday. However, when I look at our daughter, I realize it’s been more than a decade now. I believe that our relationship is maturing like the dawning of a new day with each passing year.
NaveetaMy First impression of you was, Charming, straight forward, no -nonsense and  brutally honest. 

Tell me, what was the first thought that popped into your mind when you first met me? 
AnshulWell, I cannot forget our first meeting. When I saw you, my eyes and mind paused there only. Your eyes attracted me the most, because they looked exactly like Mahi Gill, the actress. At that time, the only thought that came into my mind was that she is so beautiful and we would make a wonderful couple.

I have a question for you. What is the one trait in me, you most value me for?
NaveetaYour Unconditional Love. It’s Rare.

What is your best memory of us?
AnshulTouchwood. Our whole journey has been memorable , but If I have to choose, then I will share two of them.The first one , is from the day of our wedding, when you looked nervous on the stage and I hugged you for the first time.The second one is the period of those 20 days that we spent together in the hospital during your pregnancy before Anayta’s(our daughter) birth. Every day and night, we used to discuss our upcoming baby.

What do you value most in our relationship?
NaveetaThe freedom to express and the faith to lift each other. Sometimes I am at my lowest and at times, it’s you, so we act as cheerleaders for each other.

Is there something that you learned as a child that has proven to be most valuable in your life?
AnshulWell, during my childhood, my mom taught me that nothing is impossible and I can achieve great heights with my self-belief and confidence. And I implemented this teaching of hers, throughout my life, one of the incidents I would like to share is,  In 11th standard I took Medical with Math. Though I was not able to perform as per the expectations in the first term, I worked hard and completed my studies with flying colours and made my career as a biomedical professional.

No more nerdy talks. Tell me how do you define love?
NaveetaLove has no set definition; it keeps on changing as you evolve. At the beginning of a relationship, saying I love every day is love, pampering each other with surprises and going out is fun, but with time it takes on a different shape. It’s not that we don’t surprise each other, or that we don’t say “I love you” anymore we do, but the process has changed. In a nutshell, I would say “pyar ka safar, tere naam se, mere naam tak”. (From your name to mine, love is a journey.)

Ansh, tell me how do you know when I am upset?
AnshulWell, I understand with the tone of your voice, and through your eyes. 

What is the one word that best describes our relationship? And why?
NaveetaThe Newness in our relationship, as I mentioned earlier, it’s been 11 years still we feel as if “we happened just yesterday”. We have done a lot of exploring already and I believe there is still more to explore and do. 

Name a movie that reflects our relationship?
AnshulGalwakdi , a Punjabi movie featuring Taesem Jassar and Wamiqa Gabbi.
Naveeta———–If you had to describe me in three words what would they be? 
AnshulAns: Well, I can’t put into words how much I love you. Because you complete me, I am unable to think of anything in my life without taking you into account. However, if I had to describe you in just three words, they would be “Risk Taker,” “Beautiful,” and “Dream Catcher.”

If you had to describe me in three words what would they be?
NaveetaThree words… too less to describe you, hmm, I would say
Caring, Honest, and Full of Love.


What is your favorite picture of us?
Naveeta———–What do you see us doing 10 years from now?
AnshulWell, you know me Nanu. I don’t plan for too long. Personally, I want to live each and every moment of my life with my family whether it’s today, tomorrow or after ten Years. Professionally, I want to see you achieving all your dreams and keep enjoying each year of lives together
Naveeta3 wishes…you go first.
AnshulYou come here with me in Canada as soon as possible.
Seeing you working in Canadian Radio as a Radio Jockey, because you have the most beautiful voice.
Third, let’s keep it a secret.

What’s yours?
NaveetaI want to be with you soon, like super soon.
A Trip to Russia
Our Own Restaurant

My three wishes.
AnshulCannot wait to have you near me. Happy Anniversary and hoping for many more wonderful years ahead.
NaveetaHappy Anniversary Ansh…..
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A Weekend Getaway

Tucked away just four and a half-hour drive from my home town, Aluva, and just about 150kms from Cochin International Airport lies the most enchanting protected jungle. On arrival, one feels like being transported to another planet. Calm, green, tranquil, and mesmerising she is.

Thekkady, home to the wild animals, especially tigers, is an ideal weekend getaway that helps one cut off from the day-to-day cacophony and unwind in nature’s lap, soothed by jungle symphony. Located in Idukki, the mountain region is truly a sight to behold. Flowing through the verdant greenery of Chola forest(evergreen forest) that covers several large and small waterfalls, a double delight for nature lovers. The month of June is the start of the monsoon. The rain, bring in the raw power of nature. It leaves one spellbound.

We reached around 2 pm to inhale fresh air and idle by the river Periyar, gazing at the hills wrapped in greenery. Camping at Aranya Nivas was the best we did over the weekend. We found their rates affordable which included a decent vegetarian breakfast. The service was satisfactory, and the establishment has a swimming pool, tennis court, playground, other facilities, and amenities as well. There exist other stay options around the area if one wishes to look for it.

Our evening sightseeing was not up to our expectations. Said hi to those macaques here and there staring at us. We expected some jumbo on the way, satisfied with Deer, wild bears, and spotted wild squirrels. We comprehended that wild creatures stood in the woods during the monsoon as there were plenty of water bodies. So spotting them would be mere luck.

After the buffet dinner, we decided to enjoy the woods in the darkness with a fresh night walk. The rain didn’t allow it, so we watched from the balcony. By hearing the rain, observing it, the deep-rooted connection with the rain to the mind, it’s not just happy, romantic, deluge and loss. The way the wind moves, the way the raindrops hits the forest, everything felt different in the woods.

Boating started at 7 am, arranged by our lodging. While wading through the river, hearing the symphony of the wilderness, and spotting animals were enthusiastic. We spotted creatures like mongooses, wild boars, pigs, and wild livestock. Though not up to our expectations.

Moreover, rain accompanied our return journey. Rain always comes with mixed sentiments. For me, it is an intense feeling. It influences my imagination. I can go on and on about rain. In short the weekend stay was undoubtedly rejuvenating.

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Earth Loses One More Musical Soul

We have lost seven gems – singers in the Indian music industry this year, including KK – Lata Mangeshkar, Bappi Lahiri, singer Tarsame Singh Saini aka Taz of Stereo Nation, Pandit Shivkumar Sharma, Sidhu Moose Wala and veteran Bengali singer Sandhya Mukherjee. Very few celebrities and artists have touched my heart in so many years. KK is one of the few whom I shall miss the most! He symbolized youth and lived life to the fullest. I have always admired you 

Krishnakumar Kunnath aka KK – very few know you by this name! Wishing you a peaceful stay in heaven! You are someone whom I have been following ever since I began my youth. Your music came as a breath of fresh air at a time I was struggling with my teens-adult anguish phase. Each word of your songs resonated with me – beginning with my first crush, friendships, betrayals and heartbreaks to my first relationships. 

You joined India’s music scene at a time when Indipop was at its peak in the cable TV and AIR era. After that, the MTV and Channel V era came. Then you released your first album “Pal” in 1999. There wasn’t a single day when I did not visit Planet M (the legendary music store) in Mumbai back then. Those were the days when we had listening corners in Planet M where we could listen to music on headphones for hours! 

Whichever genre you sung, you carved a special niche for yourself – Indipop, Bollywood, Kollywood, Tollywood and all entertainment spaces! Your voice would be missed by all of us here and the entire music industry. 

It was too early for you to leave Planet Earth! Little did we know that when you sang “Pal” years ago, its meaning would hit us now. We are all proud that you not only had a rocking entry into the world when you were born but also a rocking exit from the world too – when you did your last concert. You did what you were most passionate about your whole life – did what your heart told you to do. You left a job to be a full-time musician, performed for audiences everywhere before you got your big break.

Being in the limelight and maintaining your image isn’t easy, but you managed to rock the stage with your music for 28 years while keeping your private life intact. You literally breathed music and sang myriad songs to last us a lifetime – 3000 ad jingles, more than 500 songs in Hindi, 200 songs in almost 10 regional languages. Yet these will not be enough for us. Your unique voice that made you stand out among your peers and seniors, and will resonate and reverberate for life! 

Signing off with my favourite song “Pal”:

“Hum, rahen ya na rahen kal
Kal yaad aayenge ke ye pal
Pal, ye hain pyar ke pal
Chal, aa mere sang chal
Chal, soche kya
Chhoti si, hai zindagi
Kal, mil jaaye to hogi khush-naseebi
Hum rahen ya na rahen yaad aayenge ye pal.”
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Hop and Plop

It is raining again. The down pour for all those have been waiting for it. People of all age groups greet monsoon with a happiness as it is a sign of new beginnings.

Growing up, it has always been a treat for us. And ofcourse, the frogs. The sound they make when it begins to drizzle is pretty entertaining. It’s also their mating season. The frog eggs floated in white foams on top of the water. On the North and south of our old house were water bodies. The northern pond was permanent. While our southern pond was formed during the flood. The southern pond dried up gradually as the monsoon season ended.

Meanwhile, a canal formed between the two ponds, and the area became a hinterland. There was an enormous tree near the north pond, with its branches sloping toward the surf. During the downpour, the water rose and reached the trunks. We climbed on the branches, and, jumped into the ice-cold water, swam, and played around. That was a fun party. We used to catch fish with rustic fishing hooks using tiny earthworms dug out as fish bait. Small fishes like “paral, pranjil, ootha” were lured into our snare. Trawling was at that point one of the most incredible pastimes.

The heavy downpour overnight used to bring water to our doorsteps. The whole yard was underwater. But the glut never entered the porch of our little home. Amma always said, “The Rain God never deceives us”. Large blocks were arranged to make a temporary pathway to tread over the sludge. On a day like this, the rain stopped briefly and gave way to the sun. Sunlight mirrored crystalline water, and my attention was drawn to the movement of something very peculiar.

At first, I got petrified of the possible presence of large snakes in the vicinity. It gave way to excitement as I spotted two large “varal” fish (Snakehead Murrel) and numerous baby fishes. They were on their journey from the North pond to the South. The next day, at the same time I spotted the same varal fish and the other school of fish again. Unable to contain my excitement, I called out for my younger sister, Mani. Her joy found no end as she studied them with utmost curiosity. We couldn’t let go of the opportunity to catch the fish. By the end of the monsoon, the creek connecting the ponds would quickly disappear as the water retreats, and the southern pond would become shallow. If the fish voyage ends in the south pond, we might have a chance of catching the fish. It’s going to be dumb luck.

Secrecy of the plan was necessary as we were not prepared to share the catch with the neighbouring kids. As rain withdrew, the canal dried up. Mom has been relieved now that the clothes will dry, the pets will not have to be cooped up, the livestock can go graze, and largely that she doesn’t have to worry about children catching vile tropical diseases as they squirmed in puddles. The water level of the south pond ebbed. The ripples in the muddy water hinted at the fishes trapped in the pond that by now reduced to more of a funky smelling puddle.

We decided to carry out our mission. After lunch, Mom invariably visits the neighbourhood for gossip while the children around get busy playing indoors or taking naps. We found the right time for our adventure. A bath towel was to serve as a fishing net. We ventured knee-deep into the dark, murky water. After several attempts, the fish became entangled in our fabric net. All grown by now, the fish tried to get around the net. We closed the cloth on all sides and wrapped it into a bundle.

Absorbed in our adventure, we barely noticed how we transformed at the end of the ordeal. The real danger awaited us at the bank. Our mother took the form of a bloody villain, screaming while holding a cane, ready to pounce as soon as we left the pond. Scared out of our wits, we bundled the towel with the fish and muck and threw it at her. Jumping out of the water, we took to heels before she could recover from the shock.

We reached a safe distance from her and turned around to see something I will never forget. There my mother was standing dumbfounded. The black miry slimy fish vaulted and convulsed about her legs, attempting to wriggle free from the wrap, which was now mostly open. Her hand dangled in the air holding a stick as she stood like a statue soaked in mud and slurry, red pan-chew saliva dripping from her open mouth. Quite a spectacle that I could never, ever and forever forget.

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PEMA

“Age is a question of mind over matter. If you don’t mind, it doesn’t matter.” – Satchel page. When one becomes mentally strong one neither does need the support of anybody nor the luxury of relationships. Love becomes unconditional with no expectations, no demands, no frustration. A state of detachment. 

We children fondly called her PEMA (the other mother), who made delicious appam( rice cake). I have never tasted such a flavourful, soft, and delicious white appam made with fermented rice flour in my whole life. Even today I have tried to make appams, but couldn’t get Pema’s appams softness and texture. 

Pema’s thatched house was near our school. The atmosphere itself had the fragrance of the palatable appam, which overtook the smell of the Cutticura talcum powder we used. She always sat on the floor paved with cow dung in front of the fireplace. I was often afraid of what will happen if a fire broke out on the sliding veranda where the small kitchen was placed.

The old woman was always sweating before the fireplace. She made appam simultaneously with two iron pots. The hot appam is placed either in the ‘vatta leaf’ or pieces of plantain leaf, go along with dry coconut chutney seasoned with plenty of roasted onion mustard seed and curry leaves.

The only luxury in her house was a bench placed on the front porch. Those who were lucky had gotten a seat and eat the yummy dish, others would stand here and there, in the neat courtyard, and relish the appam. A large vessel and an earthen pot filled with water were kept nearby. There was a glass tumbler also.

After finishing our meal we drink water from the earthen pot and washed our hands from the water kept in the vessel. We had always noticed her in the same attire, a lungie, blouse, and a small towel placed on her shoulder. Very rarely did Amma give me money, so I regulated my visit to her, I was also tired of stealing anna(currency unit formerly used in British India) from my mom’s betel box.

Once I asked Pema, “why are you in the same dress?” She laughed showing the gum. I discovered that she had no teeth on her upper jaw.

“Don’t make her laugh, my friend warned me, I saw droplets of saliva fall upon your hand.” But I admired her toothless laughing. I often complained mom of not making that spongy appam in our house. She tried hard but in the end, the product lacked the original texture and smell. Mom told me” That was due to her silap(gifted hands). She put her heart and soul into her cuisine to attract customers because it is her lively hood.” I don’t know whether that answer satisfied me or not. 

It was drill period, we were allowed to play outside. One of my friends called me “come there is something very special to see. I accompanied her to Pema’s house. She was standing in her courtyard holding a basket. She whistled in a particular manner with her lips and tongue. All of a sudden a group of dogs, cats, and a flock of birds like a parrot, mynah, crow, etc appeared. The atmosphere was filled with the chirping of birds and musings of dogs and cats. She gave out the appam in plantain leaves. Without any hurry, they ate silently. In between, she uttered to them in her dialect. She offered them water in a large vessel. After the sumptuous meal one by one they disappeared. Like a well-directed animation movie, I saw the whole episode with incredible excitement. Oh! What a sight!!!

On my birthday my mom usually made steamed “Ela ada”. Rice flour mixed with water and ghee, spread in plantain leaf, with fillings made with coconut, jaggery, and a pinch of cardamom powder, my all-time favourite dish. I shared one of them with Pema. That was such a wonderful moment, she laughed like crying and kissed my sandal pasted forehead.

“Your birthday falls on which day,” I asked.

She said, “people like us don’t have a birthday. We don’t know when we were born. We were in a continuous race to live a life.”

Slowly despair began to overtake the bright face of her. Within no time she recouped her happy-go-lucky nature.

“You have no relatives or spouse? What is your real name?” I was curious. She took my hand and given a warm kiss.

“You kids are all I have,” she said.

Did you go to the temple and pray?” She looked at me unbelievably with bare eyes. 

“Temple. !! I don’t have time, I have so many works to do ” 

“Like?” I asked.

“Collecting firewoods, making dough for the next day, cleaning the house, courtyard, utensils, fetching water from the far-away community well, door delivering the excess appam, and so on.” she said.

After a while thoughtfully she asked herself ” What would I ask for God?”

I became dumbfounded, her question wavered into my mind. As a child even I had so many perks in my kitty to ask from God. I narrated our entire conversation to my mother. In my voice she saw anxiety, and she consoled me “there are so many people in this world like Pema. Sometimes they hardly know even their name. You are too small to understand those things. Let them live the way they have been living, at their own pace”.

Usually, people of her age are resting or under the care of children or spouses. She was not there to complain even before the Almighty. All I saw in Pema was a dignified woman in empowerment, and independence. Unheard of during those days, in those generation, or half a century ago. The heat and summer didn’t touch her, who bears eternal winter.

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A Teacher, Historian and Critic

Presenting to you, Dr Ashrafi S. Bhagat M.A., M.Phil, Ph.D.,
Art Historian, Art Critic, and Independent Curator,
Former Head and Associate Professor,
Department of Fine Arts, Stella Maris College,
Chennai, South India.

Ashrafi desires individuals to feel differently about Art, and in her lectures on Art History, she told her students, ‘without Art History, creativity will neither be born nor happen,’ and her research and her life prove it. Ashrafi has written sizeably about Modern and Contemporary Art for years in India.

On invitations from various artists and art galleries, Ashrafi has curated exhibitions, held numerous lectures on Art, authored over 200 exhibition catalogues, essayed issues of Modern and Contemporary Art, and, was published in various publications in India and overseas too.

She is a published author and her books are ‘Madras Modern: Regionalism and Identity’, ‘Framing the Regional Modern’, and, ‘Hariraam Veeraraghavan – A Metaphoric Self in Abstraction.’

Ashrafi was the recipient of the 2016 Brew Magazine’s ‘Women’s Achievers Award.’ This was for her contribution to Art History and Art Criticism. She was the Guest Editor for a special issue of MARG Magazine, Contemporary Art in South India. She was an Art Critic for ‘The Hindu’ from 2001 to 2011.

She is no ordinary woman, Ashrafi is one in a million. Meet the legend in Art History,
Dr Ashrafi S. Bhagat. Discover more on Ashrafi’s life, work, and the path she took to shape a career in Art and Art History. 

A conversation with Chippy & Dr Ashrafi S. Bhagat.

Chippy————— Welcome to The Conversation Dr Ashrafi S. Bhagat. It’s an absolute honour to have you here.
AshrafiWell. I am happy to be here.
ChippyLet me just jump straight. If somebody asks you who’s Ashrafi, how would you describe yourself?
Ashrafi‘Who is Ashrafi?’ Well, Ashrafi is… I am really stumped by this because I have never ever thought about it. Well, I would consider myself first a teacher, who has been passionately interested in art, art history, and design. I mean, everything to do with art. So, that’s how I would consider myself, a teacher first, because that’s my passion.
ChippyThat’s the fact.  What if you take out the professional aspect out of it, how would you see yourself? Who would you say who you are?
AshrafiWell, as a person, I am quite a softie though I appear to be a hard nut outside. There is a different world within me. I have love and passion for many things as a person. I had an incredible childhood and it all started there. I am a Bohra Muslim who grew up in a joint family. There were seven of us in the family, four of us girls.

I grew up in the 70’s and fortunately, for me, my community was always quite open minded. And especially my father, I would give all the credit to my father who was very keen that all his girls were educated. My mother was a very creative person and my father cared for all of us and thought deeply about our future.Unfortunately, my eldest sister couldn’t do much. Though she had a lot of talent for languages, my grandmother never allowed it. By the time I joined College, my grandmother was no more and my father could take his decision. I was very fortunate in that respect. 
ChippyYour father’s support, which is very crucial in what you are now, you know. Because of that you became what you are today. 
AshrafiI need to mention this, ‘how important it was that he supported me’. Initially, I joined as an economics student in Ethiraj College. After a week I said, ‘I am not going back. I just don’t like the subject’. At that time I also got to know about Stella Maris College and its Fine Arts Department. I told my father, ‘I want to do fine arts’.

So, my father said, ‘you are going to college. You will finish this one year. Next year, you can do what you want’. If at that point in time my father had said, ‘okay, do what you want’. And had I stayed at home for one year doing nothing, my life would not have remained the same and I would not be who and what I am today. The support he gave me, the push he gave me has always helped me to be a better person and I strived for more.
ChippyDid you have any ambitions or dreams growing up? What did you aspire to become?
AshrafiYes, I did have one dream.  I always wanted to be a teacher. Always. It was during grade seven that I realised I wanted to be a teacher. I had some good teachers in school who inspired me. My seventh grade teachers had an impact on me, especially my brilliant Geography Teacher and another Teacher, she was an all-rounder and a strict disciplinarian. I picked up discipline from her. And it was during my one year stint in Ethiraj College doing Economics, that I had History as an allied subject. I had a fantastic History Lecturer and that’s how I developed a love for history. Dedicated, passionate and strong Teachers from my life inspired me to follow that path. 
Chippy—————So did you follow your passion for Fine Arts?
AshrafiOf course yes. After I completed my first year in economics, I joined the Fine Arts Department in Stella Maris College for my FIne Arts degree. 
ChippyYou were very clear how you want things in your life to be. So, how was your life in Stella Maris as a Fine Arts student?
AshrafiIt was fascinating and interesting for me. I loved the subjects. The Lecturers were very exceptional and they again inspired me. I was so inspired by them that I joined for Post Graduation and later completed my M. Phil in Fine Arts too. I was actually blessed to have such good Teachers, who really inspired me. So, I was very firm that ‘come what may be, I am going to come back to Stella Maris and will teach here’.
ChippySo did that happen?
AshrafiYes it did materialise. It was after my post graduation that I decided to teach Art History and be part of this institution. I did approach my Head of the Department with my interest in teaching and she said, ‘we’ll look into it’. So, this gave me some time on my hands and I joined Max Müller to learn German. I realised the fact that I had no flair for languages, none at all.

It was during one of the German classes that I got a call to meet the former Head, and the Founder of the Department, Dr. Sr. Edith Tömöry immediately. During this meeting she said, ‘I am revising my first edition of the book, and need someone to help me with research for my book. And I think you are the right person. So will you assist me and help me?’. I said, yes. And that’s how I joined Stella Maris in August 1977 as Sr Edith’s Research Assistant. I helped her with research, did illustrations, and more. In 1978, at the beginning of the next academic year, I was offered a teaching position. And the rest is history.
ChippyThus began your career in teaching, A dream come true.
AshrafiMy first job. Obviously, my first and only job. Oh yes, it was a long time. From 1972 to the day I retired in 2012. 
ChippyWow. I am speechless. Take me through that time when you first started your job as a Lecturer? How have things progressed in your life? How have you grown over time in your profession? 
AshrafiWell, it’s a long journey. I started off with a lot of interest in Art. One thing about me was that I was not simply happy reading about a work. I was always interested in knowing what it is which made them create art in such a way? So, initially, my interest began with Indian Art. Soon I found that the books were not very inspiring, that were written on Indian Art.

I found that Western Art History had very good books written by scholars and felt the reading was made easy and understandable. It was at this point, around 78-79 that the Time Life series, came out with Great masters. And I got interested in that, and I started collecting books on Art. I collected the entire series, and I started reading from these books. And these books gave me much more additional information than I could have got it from any other source. So, the cultural context of a work of art is what actually made me very interested. And I wanted to know as to how an artist from a particular context, from a particular culture, from obtaining a certain patronage, how did they survive. 
Chippy—————That’s fascinating. So how was your growth in the department? 
AshrafiI had to earn my way. I started as a Lecturer, later became Senior Lecturer, Associate Lecturer and in 1991 I was made an Undergraduate Head and progressed to Postgraduate Head. And finally I became the Head of the Department of Fine Arts and retired as Associate Professor. 
ChippyBeing a teacher helps you enhance your knowledge. Reading, researching…
AshrafiI carried this reading into my class. And my students found it very interesting. And for me, it was a passion and I used to read and deliver it to the class. And at that time, the students were equally interested.This is how I developed my interest in art, developed my interest in collecting art books, various kinds of art books, and I was slowly building up a library.

Then it became inevitable in the mid-80s, I have to go beyond my post-graduation degree if I have to go up the ladder in my profession. And that I was required to do my MPhil. So, I did a part time M. Phil from the University of Madras, and my M. Phil thesis was based on “Changing Concepts in 19th century European Art” and this made me extremely interested in Modern Art. Then 10 years went by, and then it fell on my head that I have to do my Ph.D. Now, Ph.D. was something I was terrified about. 
ChippyWhy was that?
AshrafiI had no choice but to do my Ph.D. Now, I did not want to do it in the department. I had told myself that I will never do another thesis after my M.A. dissertation, but I did an M. Phil thesis. So, when I was left with no choice because I was heading the department and it was a requirement, which the university had brought in that the head should have a Ph.D. degree. 
ChippySo off to complete Ph.D. 
AshrafiI didn’t know what subject I would actually work on. Folk-art tradition fascinated me and I told myself, ‘I am sure that there is something in art, where the folk-art tradition is’. I had minimal knowledge about modern art in India as my whole focus was always in the West. I did a research proposal. And I went to University of Baroda for registration. Of course, there was a panel meeting. And was put under such scrutiny that I felt crucified. I was asked so many questions for which I had absolutely no answer. 
ChippyOh dear!
AshrafiOh dear indeed but then somehow, I was fated to do my Ph.D. in Baroda. Dr. Parul Dave Mukherji. I wanted her to be my guide. Initially, she was a little reluctant, because she said, ‘I have no knowledge’. There were many other guides but I didn’t want to work under any male guide. I was clear about that from day one. So, after much consideration she took me on. I registered myself, I went on two years sabbatical having been awarded the Teacher’s Fellowship by the U.G.C. and started my doctoral studies. 
ChippyExciting times and excruciating stress. How did these two years fly by? Were there any hurdles and how did you overcome them? 
AshrafiOh no! Absolutely painful times. This was a period which I thought I would not survive. I thought I may have to give up my teaching also in the bargain. It was so difficult for me. I can’t tell you how difficult it was because I never understood any theories. I found it very difficult. I said, ‘how do I survive? How do I read?’ 

Thanks to my guide. She’s the one who opened up many windows for me. I was willing to work to any extent. To my bones, I was ready to work, but I needed guidance. The direction which came from my guide Parul Mukherji was exceptional. She opened up so many possibilities. Once I was level headed, I said to myself, ‘I will not take this stress anymore. Rather I will enjoy the stress’. The moment I changed my attitude to enjoying my stress, you know, it became something different. Of course, I was able to finish my work in two years. My viva was in 2004. And I got my degree.
ChippyAmazing journey. How did you get into Art Writing?
AshrafiIn 2001, while I was doing my doctoral studies, Ms. Sharan Appa Rao of Apparao Galleries, approached me and requested to write a catalogue essay for her exhibition. I responded, ‘I am not capable of writing exhibition catalogues’, and for that she said, ‘ for your Ph.D., you can write thousands of words but for my catalogue essay you can’t write some 2000 words’. She’s the one who actually initiated me into writing on Art and on Artists. Then she’s the one who slowly introduced me to ‘The Hindu’, a daily newspaper as an Art Critic. 
ChippyApart from your teaching job you also diversified into Art Curator and Critic. 
AshrafiYes. I became an Art Critic for The Hindu for almost 10 years from 2001 to 2011. And that’s how, you know, my journey began in this arena.When I wrote for The Hindu, I used to get very positive feedback from many of the readers. I was approached for writing catalogues for the artists’ exhibitions. And slowly my career picked up.

It’s now 20 years since I’ve been in this field. And for which I would say thanks to my guide, Parul Mukherji. Every time when I tell her thank you, she says, ‘what are you thanking me for? You don’t know how hard you worked to get your degree’. I always said, ‘true but without you, your guidance I couldn’t have done it’. So, that’s how I’ve gone through my journey. It wasn’t a bed of roses at all.It’s going to be 10 years of my retirement and I have been an Art Critic now for twenty years. 
Chippy—————That’s your professional journey. Over three decades of teaching career and now this. You are truly an inspiration. In the meantime you started a family too. 
AshrafiYes, I got married. But I was not blessed with children. While keeping my job, I took occasional leave from work and spent time with Shabbir, my husband who at that time was working outside the country. And at one stage, I almost gave up my job. I thought I had the possibilities of working where my husband was stationed. I did get a job there, then they said, ‘you’re not a citizen. So, we cannot give you a job’.Once again, thanks to another man in my life, my husband, who said, ‘you will not give up your job. We’ll see what the future holds for us. But at the moment you just continue with your work’. 
ChippyYou were thinking of relocating to be near your husband.
AshrafiRelocating. Yeah. But Shabbir said not to sacrifice my career. I continued with my job. Frankly speaking, this gave me a lot of space for myself, to think and to do exactly what I wanted.I had good family support from my husband’s side, who were very supportive of my work. I am truly blessed that way.

My mother-in-law who never interfered, my co-sisters who never bothered. Although they were all homemakers, I was the only one who was working. But they were all supportive and understanding. They never judged me, let me be who I am. It was a happy ambience, which also helped me in my teaching because I didn’t have to go through any stress or tensions or anxieties from my home front. So, 100%, I would say I was dedicated to my reading, to my teaching and pursuing my passion. Truly blessed.
ChippyHow did you meet Shabbir?
AshrafiShabbir Bhagat was a good friend of my brother. They were in college together and he used to come home often. I was in school and science subjects, physics, chemistry and maths were all Greek to me. Shabbir was good at science. So, whenever he came home, I used to ask him doubts and he used to clarify, he used to actually teach me. If it hadn’t been for him, I would have never cleared my school as a matter of fact. I just managed to scrape with a third class. But I managed to finish my school. 
ChippyHe liked you. Didn’t he ?
AshrafiI was not even aware that he was interested in me. He didn’t tell me. He was so afraid that I would say no that he sent the proposal through my brother. My brother brought the proposal and I was quite excited about it. I liked him too. And finally when he proposed to me, I said, ‘yes’, so that’s the story of how we met. We had a long engagement. I met him around 1969 and we got married in 1979. For 10 years, we got to know each other.
Chippy10 year engagement. Quite unusual for the times.
AshrafiAbsolutely. That’s why I keep repeating, I am blessed. My family was open to that. Otherwise, you know, the next thing is to get married. So, that’s why I say, my father played such an important role. And my husband was instrumental in pushing me into doing my Masters. I was really happy with the bachelor’s degree. I didn’t want to do my masters because I was scared of the idea of doing a thesis. I dreaded it but I did it. Fortunately, the two men in my life have played an instrumental, significant, and very seminal role in moulding me, in making me as a matter of fact what I am and who I am today.
ChippyBeautiful story.  A lot of love stories don’t have good endings.
AshrafiThat’s why I always tell myself, I am the blessed one. I am really blessed in every way, every day.
Chippy—————Moving on. It is a fact. You were instrumental in the growth of the Fine Arts Department at Stella Maris College. In your career spanning 34 years, you have helped shape a department that now is truly remarkable.
AshrafiAbsolutely. As a matter of fact, we were the only institution and department in an institution affiliated to the university which had a three-year degree. Normally, all fine arts degrees were for four years. One year is the foundation, and then the other three years of specialisation. But that was not the case with Stella Maris. 

That is when I decided along with my colleagues and with the support of the Principal whose support was very instrumental, In 2008 we changed over from a three year course to four years and renamed it Bachelor of Visual Arts (BVA) degree with two options in specialisation, Painting or Design. And a BVA degree came into existence within four years. Our first batch passed out in 2012. And it continues to date. I feel very happy that I worked towards establishing a four-year course.

When I was a student, we were just 25 in a class. In the mid 80s, it was about 35 and then gradually the strength went to 40, 45, 50 and by the time I retired the strength was almost 60. To undertake a course in Art History, one needs dedication, passion and above all interest. I found that many of the students thought it was a waste of time until I reminded them ‘without art history, your creativity will never be born or happen’. I said, from where will you get your ideas, unless you go back to your past history and see the artists how they have worked? Some of them were sharp enough to realise this and made a career and profession out of this.
ChippyYou are also the person who introduced travel as a way to learn Art.
AshrafiThe other area I help curate is exploring. I tell my students reading alone is not enough. You have to encounter art. And for that you have to encounter architectural space, art galleries, spaces. Our Founder, Sr Edith always said, ‘travel child, travel. You will learn a lot by travelling’. Sr Edith also made it mandatory for the art students to travel every year to the places of historic and artistic interests. We used to take students to Rajasthan, Khajuraho, and to South India. I have travelled extensively with my students throughout India. And I was fortunate enough that the students gave me an opportunity to travel with them. 

When I was teaching Western Art History, there were few students who wanted to travel internationally. It all began in 1989. Every time I took Art History lessons starting with Egyptian Art, ‘Ma’m, let’s go to Egypt.’ Greek History, ‘Ma’m, let’s go to Greece.’ ‘Let’s go to Turkey’. But travel never materialised until 2006 when one day I decided, ‘I will take my students to see work of Art.’ 

I opened up to the whole department and started taking trips with my students. And our first departmental trip was to France and Italy in 2006. Then more and more students got very interested. So, till I retired in 2012, we went across Europe looking at museums and architecture and culture, and nearly saw all the countries and all the museums. So, that one on one encounter and experience with art is breathtaking. 
ChippyYou love travelling and have travelled extensively. Share with us your favourite  places in India and overseas?
AshrafiI think that’s a very difficult question to answer. I found Kashmir and Himachal Pradesh in India very fascinating. I thought I was looking at art completely every way, and everywhere.

We travel extensively as a family. We had taken European trips. The Christmas festivities there, especially in Munich, Vienna, Budapest, Prague were amazing. It was like being in a fairy land, happy atmosphere.The cold, of course, was killing but when you see people so happy, radiant, joyous, and then that spirit of Christmas, it was a sight to behold. The Christmas festivities in Europe, I found it really very, very fascinating. And I just loved it. Even today when I have to relive some of these you know, I go back to this Christmas time in Europe.
ChippyIs there anyone else who inspired you?
AshrafiMy mother. Without her support, I don’t think anything was possible. It’s her creativity, which all of her children have got. I inherited her creativity. She was an extremely talented woman, who did almost everything except paint and draw but I could draw and I could paint. My mother encouraged me and let me pursue this side of my talent and due to this I was able to get into Fine Arts History. 

Oh! My mother was a strict disciplinarian. This was another important aspect. Whether we liked it or not, she would make us sit by her and she would be telling stories about her life. I used to tell myself, ‘do I have to hear all this?’  But now I realise how important stories are in our lives and those nuggets of philosophy that she imparted actually came very useful and very handy for me, especially in my teaching career. 
ChippyIf you ever get a chance to go back in time and meet your 18-year self, what would you tell young Ashrafi? 
AshrafiI don’t think I have any regrets about anything. I was happy doing whatever I did, at every stage in my life. And so, at 18, wherever I was, whether the crossroads or a direct road, I seem to have chosen my path and have travelled it the way I wanted it, supported by my destiny, and by the almighty.
ChippyWhat advice do you have for a person who’s looking to get into Fine Arts? To break into the industry as an Art Historian or become an Art Critic.
AshrafiI would say only one thing. That is only hard work please. It’s 99% hard work, and it’s 1% what do you call inspiration. And that has been my philosophy. I don’t consider myself as a great intellectual but I found that consistent hard work is the only option. This has been my mantra, and I have always conveyed it to my students. Even today, I have the same suggestion, do whatever you have to do but unless you work hard and it is not consistent hard work, nothing will materialise. 
ChippyThat’s a good message. I am honoured to have you with us today and truly humbled. It was a true delight talking to you.
AshrafiI have never had an opportunity to talk about my life as such, which you gave me an opportunity that in the beginning, you know, like I was frozen. I didn’t know you, as to where it has to begin and what it has to be. So, thank you very much. Yeah, thank you for making me realise what I have done in my life. Otherwise, I don’t think I’ve given it a second thought either.  

I am really blessed that I always tell myself, every morning I get up, I say thank God for whatever you have given me and made me. So, I mean, without the support, I don’t think I would have been able to achieve what I was able to do.
ChippyI think it’s been such a beautiful conversation and thank you so much for the time that you’ve given me. 
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The Writer

Introducing Lakshmi Sreenath, an Author, a Motivational Speaker, a Nutritionist, a Certified Yoga Trainer, and an Entrepreneur, 
Cochin, Kerala, South India. 

Growing up in a traditional home, Lakshmi believed in magic and, was entangled in a world of mysticism and mythology Her childhood was filled with tales of Gandharva’s (celestial beings) and Nagadevatha’s (snake Gods). For Lakshmi, writing is natural. She wrote her first poem at the age ten. Scribbling her thoughts and emotions has always made her stronger as a person and kept her at ease. Unaware of her calling, she toiled in the world of atoms and particles, numbers and graphs, for more than a decade. And she felt forever lost in expanse. Nothing fascinated her until she found herself through nature and her writings. 

Once Lakshmi started making her own choices in life, she uncovered her potential and thus began her entrepreneurial journey and growth. Her passion for all things natural and handmade led her to launch an artistic bath and beauty essentials firm named Herbal Sutras. Lakshmi’s love and dedication to her writing lead her to author her first book. She is unstoppable now. 

Join us in conversation with Lakshmi Sreenath,
Author, ‘The Sparkle-Eyed Photon, The Missile Man and the Mystic Me’ & Founder, Herbal Sutras. Let’s discover her journey into the world of words and entrepreneurship. 

A conversation with Chippy & Lakshmi Sreenath.

Chippy———————–The Sparkle-Eyed Photon, The Missile Man and the Mystic Me. Wow.
Lakshmi, What an incredible title for a book, welcome to the conversation.
LakshmiThank you so much. It has been years since I wanted to publish a book, become an author, and I am glad it’s now a reality. I am excited.
ChippyAnd first of all, congratulations on your book.Yeah, it’s not easy getting a book out. You know, it takes a lot of effort, it takes years of prep, a lot of affirmations and manifestation.
LakshmiYes and yes, it was very difficult to get it out because first I had to have the conviction that it was possible for me to write. And only maybe a few of the people have just commented in the same way as you have done.

It’s a fact, it is difficult to bring out the book. ‘Self Publishing would have been easy for you?’ ‘Oh, you just self-published on Amazon, it’s just nothing. Too easy.’ These are some comments I heard from near and dear. People tag self publishing as an easy way to be an author.The fact is the writing definitely wasn’t easy. Getting out was even more difficult for me but at last it’s out, that’s one thing so now it’s out but then people just start reading it so that’s the second thing.
ChippyThis is your debut book. A combination of poetry and philosophic dialogues with two departed spirits. Did I get that right?
LakshmiIt’s a mix of fact and fantasy. A cluster of 17 poems with illustrations and story lines. Each poem flows smoothly, with readable stanzas and sonnets, entangled with imaginary conversations with Dr Kalam & Sushant Singh , where they speak about all things under the Sun, which point towards love, betrayal , emotions, relations, social issues, philosophy and mysticism. It’s metaphysical and sometimes, seems to be of not this world. 
ChippyWhat is our takeaway from this book?
LakshmiThere are deep underlying messages and analogies of important life events , which the readers will easily relate to. There is history, epic-rewritten, movie adaptations, a mother’s plea, nature’s wrath, the mockery of death & funeral and the zen moment, where my poems give the readers the realisation of who you actually are. There are analogies, smilies and satires that bring a smile on your face. In fact, you may periodically find yourself in my poems. 
ChippyThis is incredible. Was there a writer in you always? How did this happen?
LakshmiIt was during COVID. To be precise, June 2020. I started re-writing my book. The idea originated in 2018. That time it was a 50 page book. And with those 50 pages, I went to my Professor, she said, ‘Lakshmi you will have to polish it.’ She loved my idea and pointed out some issues with my take on it, made suggestions and asked me to work on it.’  

So, I brought it back and kept it inside my cupboard and locked it and said to myself, ‘this is not going to happen.’During June 2020, death of Sushant Singh caused a void and it reprised me to open my cupboard and start jotting down my thoughts again. The book starts on that day. I had writer’s block for a few months and then started writing again in September 2020. Ultimately, my 50 page book expanded to a 200-page book.
ChippyAnd it’s self published.
LakshmiEven though I have been an avid writer since age ten, I didn’t know the nuances of professional writing, hence I researched how to write professionally. I wanted to learn how to write effectively and interestingly. I learned from Reedsy. I learned there the art of publishing, self-publishing, and even how to write a book. So, I did study, I have notes, how to write similes, how to write sentences, how to make a page interesting. How to make your reader go forward. I have literally learned writing from the internet. 

Let me be open, all this was possible and still is possible because of Sreenath. He was my support system through out, moral & emotional support and also financial help, he spend for the entire work, he lost sleep to learn with me about publishing a book and he is the reason my book is now out there for everyone to read, I just did the writing part. My son Maddy was understanding and absolutely rooting for me and still does.
ChippyWorld has changed, we can learn everything if we set our mind to it. And now you’re a published author. 
LakshmiYes, I have a journey in front of me. Yes, I have a journey. A very long one.
Chippy———————–I know you’re going places; you’re going places and you will go. Where did Lakshmi begin? 
LakshmiI was born, brought up in Cochin. I went to school, did my pre-degree, undergrad and postgrad, all my studies and certificates and everything in Cochin. 
ChippyLet me guess, you majored in literature. Am I right?
LakshmiOh dear. Don’t ask me that. I will cry. Even though I used to scribble and jot down my thoughts, write poems and literature pieces, I was not sure what I wanted to choose for higher studies. The pressure from family was huge and therefore I let my Achan (father) choose for me. I know. I was young and clueless. 

I did Science, Maths, Chemistry, Physics for Pre-degree, I enrolled for B.Sc. Physics for undergraduate studies, and along with this I also completed the GNIIT Program from National Institute of Information Technology.

I was literally flooded with studies and my life was not going anywhere I wanted, I danced to the tunes of others and I let that happen for a long time. Then I decided to attempt to be a Chartered Accountant. (C.A.)  In 2001, I did my articleship and in 2004 I got a job offer with a bank, I took it and after one year in the bank, too much cross selling and sales and targets I decided, I’ll do one more try for C.A. before I decide on a different path or anything else. So finally in 2006, I cleared C.A. Intermediate. When I entered into the final year I realised this is not what i want, I felt if I completed my C.A. I will remain a Chartered Accountant throughout my life, and there will be no looking back and that was not the life I had wanted. 
ChippyFirst, this is a shocker. Second, WOW, you did all this. I cannot imagine doing all this studying.  Did you find the missing piece? Why was that you were never content in any field you ended up in?
LakshmiSimple. My heart, it was set. Literature. Chippy, I always wanted to be a writer, I wanted to write. I always wanted to do literature. I wanted to pursue arts but I let others dictate and decide my life for me for a long time, for almost a decade or more. 
ChippyWhen did love for literature begin? Let’s hear the origin story.
LakshmiI remember in fifth grade summer break, Achan, my father out of the blue said, ‘why don’t you write something?’ I said, ‘write?’ What should I write about?’ I didn’t know how to write. But my fathers push got me writing. Then one by one I started to fill my books with poems and started scribbling down my feelings and I kept my notebook closer and when a thought pops up in my mind I jot it down. I wrote poems about rain, seasons, feelings, and my dad just gave the key to the door, he opened a door that I didn’t know could be opened. 

I  lived in Fort Kochi. Rain Trees everywhere, and my class overlooked Santa Cruz Church. I lived in the past, and present in Cochin. The old Portuguese and Dutch buildings, the streets and the pathways, the beach, I lived in a space that was apt for a writer. So, you can imagine the feelings I lived with and within. 

So that was the beginning of my writing journey. In sixth grade, watching the rain, I wrote my first poem and I kept on writing the next poem, and it went on and on.
ChippyYou are a dreamer.
LakshmiTrue. I love to dream. I dream and then I used to write about my dreams. I think I started scribbling everywhere. You know, jotting down small, small snippets of poetry. And then I remember in seventh grade, school said we’re publishing our first school magazine. You’re supposed to send us a poem. And then I wrote a poem about ‘Amma’. (mother)
ChippySo is that your first published poem.
LakshmiLet me tell you Chippy. I gave the poem I wrote to my teacher, and unfortunately the school magazine did not come out and thus I lost my poem. I was a child and I didn’t know that I had to make a copy of my poetry that I wrote. Poem lost forever.
ChippyMust have been devastating. 
LakshmiIt was a huge lesson I learnt. I learned my lesson and I kept writing and didn’t let this affect me at all. I started joining for essay competitions. I said okay, I loved writing because it made me express more. I used to vent my feelings, emotions. I am a very emotional being. I become angry fast. I became sad very fast as a child. Yes, I used to cry a lot. With a lot going on in my life I wanted to write.

So, I bought a 300-page book to make my diary and I started writing the diary every day. Literally, I will journal everything I did from the moment I wake up to the end of the day. I didn’t know how to journal, so I just wrote everything I did. One day Amma asked, ‘who’s Ashwini?’ And those days writing in your pen name was popular and I gave myself a pen name too. End of each day, I signed ‘by ASHWINI’. I don’t use that name now. It was a phase. I was 100% sure my Amma read all my writings. 
ChippyHow was the transition from school to college?
LakshmiAfter 10th grade, for the next five years I lived and breathed Cochin College. Cochin college was Cochin college. The campus, the mates, the professors, all were exceptional. I had a great time there. Once during a routine lesson we were asked to write a story by Prof Anitha Menon, our English Language Teacher. Immediately on to pen and paper, I started to write.

That time I was influenced by O’Henry a lot and he always had an anticlimax to his story. I wrote a story called ‘Fly Allergy’ and this story got published in the college magazine. So, in that year’s magazine I had a Hindi poem, a Malayalam story, and an English story. Even though my studies took me to a different headspace, my sanity remained as I was able to write and I felt good being recognised as a Writer those days too. 
Chippy———————–Was there a time you lost grip on writing ? Did studies, and Physics take up all your time?  
LakshmiPhysics was hard. I was not able to relate and I had to work harder than everyone else. I was not happy at all. But I still wrote, and there were reservations on writing in depth. I was very…let me correct myself, I’m still a very romantic person. A very hardcore romantic duirng college days. I used to write about small, small crushes and small, small heartbreaks. Because at that point of time, you can’t confess your love to somebody or you’re so reluctant, you can even open your mouth. And I’m afraid to jot down because my mother reads everything, and she will question everything. 

So, writing down was a very difficult part for me because every diary of mine would be read by Amma. So, writing actually started slowing down because, one, Amma read everything and second,  Physics- it was getting a toll on me and because of that I really didn’t have a dream as to what I should become. That’s when Sreenath came into my life. And the best part, and the only reason why I think that I went to Cochin college is because I found my life partner there.
ChippyDetails please.
LakshmiFor me, I could not do an arranged marriage. I didn’t believe in it. I wanted to know a person, speak to him, understand the guy, you know, at least fall in love here and then get married. And I wanted to have those butterflies and you know how a writer can be. And I’m so hardcore romantic person. I wanted the butterflies. I wanted to feel it. 

For Sreenath too Physics was Greek. We were buddies always, initially we became friends and from then onwards, we did all the studies together. We were good friends throughout. But ultimately, it’s like marrying the known Devil is better than marrying an unknown angel. So, we decided on mutual agreement that we vibe okay. And let’s get along and make a life together.
Ultimately, when I was of the marrying age, my mom started  looking for some other alliances. And I was so reluctant because I wanted a love marriage. Fortunately my grandfather was very fond of Sreenath. 
ChippyLove is a dream and a dream that can happen anytime in our life. Right. Have you written poems about Sreenath?
LakshmiIn my book, there is one, which is called ‘Mine’. The smallest poem in the book. We are poles apart still we are best for each other. He is very practical. I am not practical. But I think that keeps me balanced. 
ChippyYou are not a writer alone, you are an entrepreneur too. 
LakshmiTrue. Small scale entrepreneur you may call. I have been making homemade oil for my son Maddy since 2014. I found the store bought oils not suitable for my child’s skin and hair. In 2015, I wanted to make a change in my life and so I decided to enrol for a course, Master of Science in Nutrition. While pursuing this, I also completed my Certification in Yoga and I started Tapasya, a Yoga Centre. 

One day my friend requested an oil for her because she has hair loss issues. So, I told her, I have this formula at home and let me see what I can come up with. I made oil and bottled six in total. After giving my friend, there were few left. So, I asked my yoga students if they wanted the oil I made, they said yes.They insisted that they pay the cost for it. So I priced it at Rs. 200/ 200 ml. So, they used it and the feedback was incredible. One friend said ‘we loved your oil. I really want you to make more. So, again I made a bigger batch. My Yoga students and friends referred me to many others and I was getting more orders and kept on receiving more. It was not intentional at all.  
ChippySo, word of mouth.
LakshmiYeap. I received requests from friends and strangers. ‘Lakshmi I don’t like oil on my hair. Can you make something else for me?’ So, I made a hair toner. And by that time, Ambika Pillai had come up with C serum also. So, I was formulating an identical exact formula. I put in the formula and put-up herbals, herbs and essential oils.

So, I had three products by now. Then one day a friend suggested I showcase my products in Kochi Info Park. Sreenath immediately suggested ‘first thing, you need a brand name. You need a logo. You need stickers and you need good bottles and packaging is vital.’  Then I started thinking about it. So, at that point I was learning Yoga Sutra. I named my brand Herbal Sutras.
ChippyAmazing. How did it take off?
LakshmiI went to the first exhibition at Info Park. It was actually a hit, everything sold off. And the first day I actually made about 20-25k return. I was like, oh my god, this is good. This is good money in one day. Like, it’s really good money. And a second exhibition happened. In August 2017, Flea Kochi happened. Flea Kochi is a posh flea market in Cochin. I had a stall at their second edition. Herbal Sutra kept growing.  

Then a friend asked ‘Lakshmi why don’t you make soaps? Please make soaps at home because my child has eczema.’ I said okay, even my child has eczema. I will, all right. Then I started reading, researching and I started learning aromatherapy and not everything is available, when you do small courses. I started doing herbalism. I started to read Ayurveda. And developed a formula for a soap.I read a lot and so, each product evolved. There was a time when I had 42 products. Sreenath said, ‘42 products. You cannot make it on your own. Not possible.’ So, I scaled it down for 20. And so now I make soaps. I make artistic soaps. I enjoy making soaps, and oil. 

Chippy———————–During Covid you not only managed to write a book but also completed a postgraduate degree in Nutrition.  
LakshmiYes, it was a challenging time. Yet, I completed MSc in Dietetics and Food & Service Management in June 2021. I want to bring out a book that can generate awareness on nutrition, for sportspersons, especially in India. The children who are coming into sports are not aware of what they should eat, how they should and when they should eat. So, I did my research thesis when I did my PG. 

My aim is to create awareness on eating healthy and wise, what do you eat before a match? What to eat after your match? What do you eat before your training? There is no awareness. Bad nutrition actually affects a child’s growth, no matter the training. So, I am thinking of bringing out a book, it’s not a detailed book. It’s more like a manual, a kid can take it and then refer to it before a match or before a training session or during recoveries, so it’s like a small guide. ‘How to eat like a Sports Pro’, that’s how I’ve titled it as of now, because my presentation which I had done for the children has the same name. 
ChippyYou are literally, “a jack of all trades is a master of none, but oftentimes better than a master of one.” person. An Author, an herbalist, a nutritionist and an entrepreneur. 
LakshmiI will be juggling between things. And I will not be restricting myself to a single thing. Because I am an Aquarian so I get bored fast.
ChippyAny upcoming books?
LakshmiYes, yes and yes. I love to write and I aspire to be known as a Writer more than anything. I have a vision board and I hope to reach my goals soon. My next hopeful project is a series of poems. I am excited about this and cannot wait to share with the world. I have plans for fiction too, a long way to go on it. Another one I wish to do is a book on nutrition. As I said, I just completed my studies and I have a lot of work to do on it. 
ChippyOne final question. If you ever get a chance to meet your 18-year-old self, what would you tell her?
LakshmiOh Chippy, please don’t ask such a question, there are so many things I would have wanted to reverse. But as seen in the movie Navarasa’s Project Agni using a Time Machine the protagonist altered just one thing from his past and in the present his wife never existed. So, I will not change anything. But I will tell myself, ‘Lakshmi, pluck up courage, please leave Cochin. Go abroad, find a course, study something that you really want to, nutrition or writing, go to Oxford, or Harvard, See the world, and go find yourself, “jaa Simran jaa, jee le apni zindagi”. (‘go girl go, go live your life.’)’. Knowing what I know now, I would have gone places. I would have loved it. 
ChippyThankyou Lakshmi for this amazing conversation. I wish you all the best for the new book and the  upcoming books. You have lots to do and achieve, and I am sure you will always discover a path forward because you have the determination and drive.
LakshmiThankyou and thank you for having me. 
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